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go to this site, and educate yrselves....


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Pure Socialism will never work. Are you going to give up your luxeries for some one else? Should a nuerosurgeon and a paper boy get paid the same? If there were no opportunity cost to building everyone justa decent home, then socialism might work. I think you're forgetting human nature. People are competitive beings.And people are corrupt. Some of the excess wealth that is supposed to be taxed from the rich and redistributed may some how find its way into a politicians pocket. The site also appears to be propaganda for socialism.


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im not a socialist, i just post it so you's can read it.


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Oh ok. The site has a funny game too.


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Location: the base of ya brain....
*wow* never really thought about all that before..dope site..good lookin mesa, my brain digested all that nutritious knowledge.

u do come in usefull now & again...

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At this moment in time I am not sure how I feel about this. Good in theory but it will never happen.


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I think we should strive for a socialist/communist take on things.


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I'm waiting for a natural revolution amongst us all...
One day, it'll happen - they'll invent some law or tax which will literally be taking the piss out of everyone - then the whole country will riot!
Check out that place on the news, Bosnia I think - The whole country rallied against that fucked up-corrupt-twisted president!
Raiding an ammo dunp for protection, e must have seriously been shitting himself, because if we want to, we can kill - there's only your self-concence to answer to after all, and nothing else...


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I have to laugh about this guys ....


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I was born in a socialist country and lived there till things changed ,the rest of my life I spent in a country with mad capitalism ...
You see the biggest problem of our society is money ...
money in form of corruption and greed ruins every form of society ...
why ? YOU can be honorable and anything ,there still will be people who are not ...you cant help it ...plus these peopel can herrase or terrify or even kill you ,and why ? because money gives them the power to do so ....

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I appreciate the link after just reading the document - it all ties in with how we're supposed to naturally live this sociallism lark, cos wealth, that's artificial power, not true power...
These 'democrats' & 'capitalists' where the fuck do they reside man, cos I'd love to beat their asses, cos I seriously would - look at all the fuckin shit they're causing to us and the population and the planet... They are only human after all, just like you and me... They can't do all that shit on their own, they need all the tools of the media...


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ok my dad's a commie..altho i am not i do agree with the overall idea and what they're trying to do. i do know it is a fuck of alot better for the workers/middle class than this bullshit capitalistic system of survival of the fittest-it's been and will continue to destroy and kill. where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer..socialism i really don't think will work because it still had some aspects of capitalism..like money. money needs to be destroyed..and why do people keep saying a communal way of life could never work? that's how things started..native americans lived communally and worked together..went out and hunted and shared however little or alot they had. it can work again..we just need to educate ourselves and find truth. we need to unite and fight in a revolution..that's the only way the bosses will give up their profits,exploitation,control,power. but they put the idea in our heads that things can't change and they wana keep us quiet..fuck that-we outnumber them a million to 1. ok i'm ramblin now i could write more but you get the idea. peace
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anyone who thinks communism or socialism is some evil form of government is a product of brainwashing through media.

Communism is a great idea in theory but pretty unsucessful in functionality.

Socialism makes a lot of sense, but unrealistic to consider the United States achieving (if any of you are socialists) in this lifetime. Socialism had an incredibly strong following at the previous turn of the century, and basically it got the boot along with the IWW and other progressive movements.

That game was amusing. I won the second time playing, the ending was a real disappointment, so fuck you mesa.

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i dont know if i would say socialism had a strong following. it was mostly intellectuals. how much was the most debs ever got? 10%? 12 maybe? anyway, capitalism has its ills, yes, but anyone here who really believes that they would have been better off living in any formerly or current communist country is off the mark, i think. these countries are or were corrupt at the top like the u.s. now why is this? well there are many reasons, but communist leaders never had the best interests of the people in mind. read the protocols of the lost elders for more.


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there never has been a truely communist country..they may have called it that..these 'communist' countries (ie china,cuba,)still used money..which means there's still profit,exploitation,some makin more than most,etc. that by itself is capitialistic.


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But to those of you who grew up here in the United States, try to imagine how different your life might've been if you had *not* grown up with capitalism in your life. Do you honestly think you would still have *both* the luxury and resources to question our system? Call me a capitalist pig, and I don't care *how* introspective someone may think he/she is, but without Capitalism we wouldn't even have the means to take our minds as far as we've taken them now. And we wouldn't have the incentive.


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All this shit that I have, this *materialistic* shit.. Don't mean nuthin', just escapism to little ol' me. Escapism from the reality of going to work 40 hours a week, knowin I'll have to maintain this for the next 40 years of my life - all because of 'capitalism' and their 'capitalistic' ways of 'capitalising' on nature... Now, I'm pretty screwed, cos what way do I have outta this mess - I've been thru the learning process of my life, that was when I was a child, yet unfortunately my parents were brainwashed by the capitalists lies too...
So what do you do???? Most of the people in this world are blind to the true ways of the world... the main fact that the Earth has given us the means to live solely off the land - either independently or within a tribe to maintain our chances of survival. We all have something to benefit and slot into a tribe, don't we.... But look what tribe we've been forced to participate with.


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WORD dougall i couldn't have said it better myself..preach on brotha!


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